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Thursday 26th January 2012
15:30 - 16:30 Track 3 Session 5
The learning professional
Where should learning and development fit in an organisation? During the Learning and Skills Group Conference in June 2011, Paul Jagger tweeted that L&D needed to break free from HR. Almost immediately Jon Ingham came back to contradict him: HR is the natural home for L&D. Rachel Roberts, meanwhile, has a different, third opinion. It’s an important debate to have, and we can rely on our three speakers to share their thoughts openly and to kick off what promises to be an interesting debate between each other and with the floor.
P1: HR is not the best home for L&D
Paul Jagger, Business Area Manager, IBM Learning Development Europe
HR is not the best home for L&D. It claims to be strategic and business driven, but this is at best an aspiration and at worst an illusion. The reality is that HR is mostly bogged down in transactions. It is a side show, and putting L&D within it reduces learning to a side show of that side show.
- How HR’s risk averse nature militates against learning technologies
- The hard evidence for HR’s lack of strategic intent
- The true home of L&D
P2: L&D can benefit from being part of HR
Jon Ingham, Executive Consultant, Strategic HCM
The work of the L&D department is important, so too is the social learning that takes place naturally in an organisation. To make the most of these, however, the tools, approaches and intended outcomes of social learning and L&D departmental activities, should – says consultant Jon Ingham – be extended into other areas of HR and the organisation.
- The benefits of L&D being part of HR
- How HR uses social media outside the learning sphere
- HR’s crucial role in cultural change
P3: L&D belongs where the business needs it
Rachel Roberts, Senior Teaching & Learning Manager, City & Guilds
The idea that L&D should fit into any particular department is not the key issue. What matters is business effectiveness, not organisational turf wars. Sometimes L&D might best fit in HR, elsewhere it can exist effectively in sales, operations, or anywhere else, provided it is led by someone who makes sure it focuses on what the business actually needs.
- Why learning culture matters more than organograms
- Learning takes place within the business rather than in the training room
- Why it might be best to get rid of the term ‘L&D’ altogether



























